No geopolitical arguments - just scripture, please.
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CalledToBusiness |
Persecution of Christians will never come to America. |
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Posts: 754 (02/16/05 11:22 PM) SiteAdministrator |
Truth or not-so-Truth?
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southdom |
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Posts: 42 (02/24/05 02:34 AM) |
In fact, everyone who wants to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted. 2 Timothy 3:12.
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Runningtherace |
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Posts: 139 (03/01/05 02:43 AM) Registered Member |
Matthew 5:44
But I say to you, love your enemies, and pray for those who persecute you Matthew 10:16 & 21-25 16: Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves; therefore; be shrewd as serpents and innocent as doves. 21-23 " And brother will will deliver up brother to the death, and a father his child; and children will rise up against parents, and cause them to be put to death. And you will be hated by all on account of MY name, but it is the one who has endured to the end who will be saved. But whenever they persecute you in this city, flea to the next; for truely I say to you, you shall not finsh going through the cities of Isreal until the Son of Man comes 24 A disciple is not above his teacher, nor a slave above his master. 25. It is enough for the disciple that he becomes as his teacher, and the slaves as his master. If they have called the head of the house Beelzebul,HOW MUCH MORE THE MEMBERS OF HIS HOUSEHOLD ( NSAB, accent added) |
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His Song |
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Gal 4:28-29 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise. But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
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Posts: 343 (01/26/07 07:25 PM) Administrator |
I'm in America and I'm just sure that persecution is already here. Just try laying down everything and following Jesus and see how many people will come out of the woodwork just to persecute you, especially the body of Christ, your friends and your family. Please don't believe me, try it for yourself.
God please bless us with an ever increasing measure of Jesus until we got so much Jesus that we glow all the time and people can see the glow of Jesus in us and want some real bad, in the name of Jesus, amen. Chris
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hkgoldee |
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Posts: 9 (09/03/07 01:24 AM) |
Cris
God please bless us with an ever increasing measure of Jesus until we got so much Jesus that we glow all the time and people can see the glow of Jesus in us and want some real bad, in the name of Jesus, amen. I concur and pray in Agreement. This is what we have in Asia. They see it they see the difference, and say, i want that. America looks upside down. Lord please turn her rightside up. Amen Martha |
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I Barnabas |
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Posts: 912 (09/03/07 04:30 PM) |
What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? (Romans 8:31)
You shall hide them in the secret place of Your presence From the plots of man; You shall keep them secretly in a pavilion From the strife of tongues. (Psalm 31:20) No weapon formed against you shall prosper, And every tongue which rises against you in judgment You shall condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, And their righteousness is from Me, Says the LORD. (Isaiah 54:17) For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war according to the flesh. 4 For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds...(2 Cor.10:3-4)....... And Jesus said: Persecutions Are Coming Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves. Therefore be wise as serpents and harmless as doves. 17 But beware of men, for they will deliver you up to councils and scourge you in their synagogues. 18 You will be brought before governors and kings for My sake, as a testimony to them and to the Gentiles. 19 But when they deliver you up, do not worry about how or what you should speak. For it will be given to you in that hour what you should speak; 20 for it is not you who speak, but the Spirit of your Father who speaks in you. 21 Now brother will deliver up brother to death, and a father his child; and children will rise up against parents and cause them to be put to death. 22 And you will be hated by all for My names sake. But he who endures to the end will be saved. 23 When they persecute you in this city, flee to another. For assuredly, I say to you, you will not have gone through the cities of Israel before the Son of Man comes. 24 A disciple is not above his teacher, nor a servant above his master. 25 It is enough for a disciple that he be like his teacher, and a servant like his master. If they have called the master of the house Beelzebub,[a] how much more will they call those of his household! 26 Therefore do not fear them. For there is nothing covered that will not be revealed, and hidden that will not be known." (Matthew 10"16-26) Quote: Posted by Clare@fellowshipofthemartyrs.com from NKJV. |
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morningland |
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Posts: 14 (12/09/07 12:25 AM) |
Scripture wise, Jesus said you would be hated and persicuted by ALL nations for my names sake... this includes America.
But I can't help but also point out the criminal, satanic elements that have infultrated our government and are waiting for the hour when they can get their hands of Christians for persecution. The hundreds of prison camps in America are not always going to be empty, ya know. |
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Posts: 4 (05/29/08 06:21 AM) |
My daughter had a dream that she was leading a group of people to safety as they were being pursued by a man-eating eagle. They were in words, and they were
surrounded by strife and fires. The eagle is America's symbol. and was a Roman symbol, so I think persecution may come here She is 11, and this happened in
the not so far future.
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Posts: 4 (05/29/08 06:22 AM) |
Hi-I meant to say-they were running for shelter in the woods-not words.
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Posts: 43 (07/18/08 01:51 PM) |
False it will happen when is the question.
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Posts: 43 (07/18/08 01:55 PM) |
Ok don't know if the bible says america. But I find it strange that were not in there anywhere in the endtime parts. But I don't know much on that so I
could be wrong.
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Posts: 134 (07/20/08 06:54 AM) |
I do believe it does, tho I'm not sure where...
A quote from Jack Van Impe's website: "In the war with Russia in Ezekiel chapters 38 & 39 Ezekiel 38:13 mentions Tarshish and all of the young lions. The symbol of America is the Bald Eagle and the symbol of England is the Lion, so Tarshish and all her young lions, all the English speaking nations of the world including Canada come against Russia." (I don't agree with a good chunk of what J.V.I. believes... but the man does know the bible well!) Soo, America as was once part of the British Commonwealth... does it get counted as one of the 'lions of Tarshish'? I dunno.
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Posts: 43 (07/20/08 10:52 AM) |
Um... interesting...
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Posts: 39 (09/17/08 06:03 PM) |
Its already here. They stand at the gates and niether enter nor allow those who would enter to enter. Those who listen to thier words become twice the children
of hell that they are.
If Christ claimed this 2000 years ago....its been here all along. The children of God who wish to come to him have but tormented all along by the leaven of the saducees and pharisees.
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Posts: 39 (09/29/08 10:50 PM) |
DaughteroftheMOSTHIGH, I believe a verse in revelations also refers to us. "The Eagle shall swallow the Asp, the Bear shall swallow
the Eagle, the Dragon shall swallow the Bear.
I believe the Asp is the Viper which is a symbol of the Arab nations, we are the Eagle, Russia is the Bear, and China is the Dragon. I believe these are all the nationaly recognized symbols of the various nations discussed in the end time prophecies. We have to keep in mind a prophet would have witnessed symbols for thier time and would only know these nations in symbology only.
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