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PuertorroforGod	So confused please share Light	Lead	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 1 (05/22/08 06:44 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Tags : None I read some of the topics on the salvation topic and they have blessed me. I was raised in a Christian home(mother) and a Catholic father(divorced)- My mom kind of teached me that Jesus Sacrifice was an act done by God and that no man can undo Gods work of salvation . So many years passed by and during those years My mom teached us christianity very well -she has spiritual tongues gift and in many prayer meetings we(mom,sister and I) had the privilege of recieving clear words of intruction from God- those event helped me establish God as real -then after college "faith destruction classes" my trust in the bible was a bit messed up-2 years ago after long years of unstopped lust and sexual sin plus many more sins I noticed the christian community on the web and my life changed for good- I asked Jesus for forgiveness and for the Holyspirit to come inside me, but that night the main thoghts on my mind were to get baptised,( event on which I participated in the past after taking some "classes on the subject" that didnt ment much to me at the time.) I came with this thoughts during this 2 years of knowing Gods word better : 1: If we are all short of the glory of God, and only through Jesus we are acceptable to enter the Kingdom, then how can I lose my salvation if on the first place I wasn't able to gain it by myself? a-posible answer : Jesus said that no one can take us off his hand, so I can trust in Him to keep me saved? b- If option (a) is true , could it be posible that only myself is capable of taking myself out of Jesus hands? and that would have to be a willfully choice to not be saved anymore? c-If none of the above is according to scripture, then what does being saved by Grace has to do with keeping or losing salvation? b-Can someone inside God's grace get out of it by sinning? Possible reason for my confussion: Most of my problems come becauce I like sexual sins, but everytime y commit a sin I feel bad and I run to ask Jesus for forgivness but even on the same day I go back to sin. I have been reading the baptism posts and right after reading it I came to think that becauce of my lack of doing a baptism with faith I am not able yet to stop sinning. OK so please pray for me, and share with me the Light which has given you eternal salvation or that is keeping you saved !!
JillyBean30		#1	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 4 (05/22/08 03:23 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Sounds like you have an addiction to this thing. That is something you must fully surrender. It will also be where Satan will attack you in your more stressful times in life. You have to want God more than the addiction. I had an addiction to cigarettes. What helps me to never do it again is I remind myself how hard I tried on my own and how in an instant God did it when I surrendered to Him. I had an amazing experience and you just don't forget that. Saved by grace means you do not have to do works to be saved. Jesus satisfied that requirement. However that doesnt give us the ability to go sin. When we seek after God we start to hate sin as much as He does. In order to keep our flesh in line we have to stay in prayer and stay in His Word. When the Holy Spirit speaks to you not to do something that is when you need to stop and obey.
peter1947	saved sinners	#2	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 12 (07/05/08 12:02 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	We are really saved sinners who through the death of Jesus on the cross>We can neither add to it of take away from it.The geek word for salvation in the Bible means to salvage. The idea behind it is that you would take a Jar or something from a sea wreck and take the barnacles and encrusted rubbish from it and make like it was new. the missing link in all this I think is sanctification. We are being renewed by the Holy Spirit bit by bit. Its like if you get the flu. you know you have it by the symptom, headaches. high nny nose etc. These are only signs that you have a virus. Now when the virus is killed when the doctor treats you ,you still have some of the symptoms for a day or so. Its like that with salvation sins are the sign of sin . Sin was killed on the cross and when we repent and ask Jesus to be Lord of our life sin is killed because of the cross. But the symptoms stay around for a while even un til we die and go home to Jesus.though we can have victory over them in this life I think the thing that confuses young Christians is that is a growth thing. e. g some people stay spiritual babies all their lives and Satan really torments them. The way to grow in your Christian life is to be obedient and learn to witness there so many verses that encourages us to do that. Just look at Christians that are being persecuted in non Christian countries, They have not got time to wonder if they are saved they know they are. Hope that helps a little Peter
peter1947	oops that should be Greek word not geek lol	#3	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 12 (07/05/08 12:03 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts
JustSid		#4	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 39 (09/18/08 11:29 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	PuertorroforGod, you are saved by grace. Surrendering it is to realize you are flesh and have no control over it. When Christ paid for sin he paid for sin past present and future. Now that your aware of your imperfection, then dont point the finger at others imperfections. You may try to change it by the help of God, but even Paul said, "I bare a thorn in my flesh. Thrice I have prayed it be removed and God has said my grace is sufficent thee." Christ said, "I desire mercy above sacrifice." So if you as a carnal man recieve mercy from God. Then how much more important is it that you give mercy to all you meet. A parable, "A man was in great debt to the King, he was brought before the King who demanded payment. The man begged on his face that he did not have the money and could not pay the king. He said, my Lord please all I have is yours forgive me my debt I beg of you. Looking upon the man the Lord had mercy and forgave him his debt. The man was released and it wasnt to long and he came across another who owed him money. He took this man by the cuff and demanded payment. This man begged on his face, my lord please I dont have the money for the debt. The man looked at him and called the guards and he was cast into prison and beaten. The King heard of this and sent for the man, He said." did I not forgive you a great debt? Then why would you go and demand payment from another who owed you? The man begged but his cry's would not be heard by the King. Take him out a cast him into outer darkness." Point of this parable, To whom much has been forgiven even more mercy to his fellow bothers and sisters is expected. We are carnal, all of us! We must remember the mercy we recieved and though it may hurt us financially or personally. We MUST show that same mercy to all our brothers and sisters. This is a parable of how we lose our salvation. Christ in his last moments cried, "Forgive them Father for they know not what they do" and granted us mercy. In like fashion we can not, even though we be nailed to a cross, do any less. Be glad God came to you, even wallowing in your filth, and called your name. Likewise, do the same for your brothers and sisters. The word doesnt say make yourself pristene and come to me. It say come as you are and all good measure shall be added unto you. Peace my friend and much love from your brother in Christ.

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